The Seattle Times' Opinion on "Public Forum" Student Papers


"But we say again it is a risky thing to give legal control of a high-school newspaper to students."

Seattle Times Editorial

Wednesday, April 7, 2010

Comment--email submission

Hi,

I appreciate that there's a lot of legal stuff going on here. But I would like to get back to the basic topic of "have you seen what's in the paper" because I cannot believe they are allowed to publish those photos and articles and things like "if you want to grope your boyfriend but can't do it in the halls, go to the dances and do it there."  And what about that girl who said in a paper from 2008 that she was groped against her will at a dance. She didn't like it and she didn't want it to happen. 

I am probably going to be called names, too, but this is a school paper for goodness sake. It reads like it's for college students and my 13 year old is not ready for that in September!!
  
I finally got the Club Chrome page to load and I'm disgusted. Save it for facebook and print school news. And that drug dealer article is not funny. Is that supposed to be an advertisement for a job selling drugs (easy money and you won't get caught)?

Sincerely (and actually thanks for writing this blog and sharing the information),
  
Susan 
[last name withheld by blog editor, since you have a child heading to the high school next year]


[here's the link to the original post Have you seen what's in the DHS paper?]

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree with Susan. The stuff in the paper is tmi. This is not okay generally for the students and I don't want my tax money going to an open forum for the students.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous Swimmer Mom,
Please read the Billy Wolfe--Bullying link. I think it would help you, because hazing is just bullying by another name.
From the article,
"It is NEVER okay for a child to be bullied. Bullying is not what makes children tough. In this situation, a better lesson can be learned from watching parents that stand up and fend for their children. Not taking a stand is telling the child that they are not worth taking action over. It's telling the bully they can treat others that way and get away with it and letting the parents of bullies off the hook."

I realize it is too late to act now, but at least telling what happened on this public blog might help someone else realize that action must be taken to help the bullied child, and give the bullies a chance to become better members of society as well as their parents.
Thanks for sharing,
DHS Parent

Anonymous said...

I really think your comments will help lots of parents. I am so sorry you went through this, you are a victim too.
Did you read the latest edition? Why didn't they include Michigan age of consent law and statutory rape as part of the issue (who knows, maybe I missed it)?
Maybe Venus, Goddess of Fertility, is appropriate mural material after all (that was a joke!).
Same DHS Parent

Working Toward a Better Dexter said...

To Cape Coral FL and Detroit MI. I have read your comments. Thank you for taking the time to send them in.

I am not familiar with the duties of a first responder. That is just what I heard at the bus stop and it sounded bad to me. Why are kids passing out?

I see the difference between security cameras and supervision like the difference between punishment and discipline. The first attacks the problem, but the second offers a solution. But that's coming from a mom. With appropriate (not extreme) supervision, you wouldn't need cameras in the halls. That was my point.

And the principal said something like it's not to spy on the kids it's to promote trust. I'm not getting that.

A lot of high schools get along just fine without drug dogs, a police car parked out front and security cameras. What's next? Metal detectors?

And seriously, you really think high school students have outgrown supervision? I know you are not in middle school, but you're also not in college yet. When you are, you'll find there's a lot more freedom and a lot less reason to kick at people. High school is supposed to chafe a little bit. It's HIGH SCHOOL.

So we can agree to disagree on that one.

Anonymous said...

In response to the above anonymous, bullying with no adult assistance or response was the subject of a Squall article by Ashley a few pages away from the more famous Crome article. Her story was eerily similar to that of Phoebe Prince (read yesterday's Seattle Times article here; http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2011483076_bullies31.html) who didn't have the strength Ashley exhibitted and went on to commit suicide. I am concerned about a serious problem and want children (yes, even those as old as 18) and parents to know they should turn to authorities for help. I believe Dexter is a good place with some really great people in positions of authority; the authorities need to be informed before they can help. Granted, it is very hard to go and ask for help with such a humiliating problem.

Utopia doesn't exist, DHS has some problems. Hopefully all of us; parents, students, administration and teachers can work together to make a good place even better.
DHS Parent

Ria said...

Where is this identical "love issue" cover?

Working Toward a Better Dexter said...

Hi Ria,

It's mentioned in the Doppelganger article. The Commoner is a student paper.

"Edmonston recalled Commoner editors talking for hours about possible ramifications as they planned their November 2007 package of stories examining teen sex, and photo illustrations of a clothed girl and a bare-chested boy embracing on a bed."

Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2008/10/13/506967/how-free-is-student-speech-in.html#ixzz0kY2hqZ53

Anonymous said...

dear swim team moms,

I am very sorry that your daughters were harmed at this sleepover. We were not aware that anyone was upset by our activities. Everyone but the seniors participated in the scavenger hunt and it was expected that people would behave appropriately. Apparently that was too much to hope for from the group you mentioned. I believe nearly everyone there was embarrassed by the way this group behaved and how it reflected on our team. Furthermore no sharpies were used to write on anyone and nothing mean was written. the point of the sleepover was not to haze anyone it was to bond as a team. No one was supposed to get hurt or feel uncomfortable. I remember this sleepover from when i was a freshman the the hazing was significantly worse (i was injured at the sleepover, people were crying, and raw eggs, shaving cream, and flour were involved). I would agree that these activities are inappropriate if meant to cause harm. Everything was supposed to done as a joke and if the freshman, or anyone for that matter, had said anything objecting to what was being done the action would have ceased. By all means keep your daughter away from the sleepover in future years. However, I would recommend talking to the captain/senior parents and arranging activities that would be acceptable to you and your daugther so she caan still participate in team activites. despite the sleepover my freshman year i managed to have an amazing time on the swim team. I always felt included and supported by my team mates, not bullied. Wanting to keep your daugther safe and protected in a very commendable but please try to find a solution to this problem that will allow your daughter to bond with her team mates appropriately. I am truly sorry that you and your daugthers were harmed by their experiences with the swim team and i am sorry for the part i played in this, it was not intended to harm anyone. I hope your daughters will have a fun and safe experience on the swim team for the rest of her high school career. Sorry again for any harm that was done.

--A DHS senior swimmer

Rachel-DHS Grad said...

Working Toward a Better Dexter said...

"When we moved here, DHS had a great reputation. That's changing. And when good people start pulling their kids out of school or moving, it's bad for everyone. Sorry, DHS, I'm not willing to send my children to the high school as it currently is."

Honestly, I have known many people who have graduated from DHS and have hear their stories, and being a grad of DHS my self, I can honestly say that DHS has always been how it is. It's just now, parents are noticing it. I'm sure 90% of DHS students have done drugs or drank. I'm sorry but your little babies aren't as good as you think. I'm not sure what to do about the problem because its all kinds of students doing it. And I know a few girls who switched out of DHS because of the rude girls and this was in the 90's. None of this is new. You're just opening your eyes for the first time. It's your kids choice. Let them see on their own that if they make a bad decision, something bad will happen. It's not Dexter's fault at all. You make your own decisions. You just have to be smart enough to make the right ones.